Talk:Aksel Wayland/@comment-24545663-20170503040734/@comment-28884330-20170520222048

" I like how you give me and yourself different standards for evidence. You were using the dxd wikia pages to explain your argument but now you're telling me I have to go in the light novels and find direct quotes. It's almost like you're giving me and yourself different standards for evidence because the sources you used for evidence can be used to debunk your own argument. Imagine that." Fair enough. I'll give it to you here since you're right, but I doubt even in the wiki you will find something that can debunk what I said. Try, though, if you want.

"How have I not proven that they're hybrids? When they possess the elements of both races thus making them hybrids." You haven't proven it because it has never been stated that a Reincarnated Devil is a hybrid by anyone other than you, and it has never been stated that by becoming full Devils they would lose their "characteristics".

" I like how you swapped the term appearance with attributes. Also Tannin is referred to as a devil-dragon in the series. So doesn't bringing him up disprove your argument?" Tannin is described as a former Dragon King who became a Reincarnated Devil, check. Never has he been called a Dragon-Devil hybrid.

"I'm pretty sure Akeno wouldn't have a fallen angel wing if she was a full devil. That's just common sense.

Also you even admit they aren't fully devil. If they aren't full devils and don't possess the attributes ot a full devil then what the hell does that make them? It makes them hybrids pal, the definition of hybrid is "a mixture of different elemenets" which is what they are. You're debunking your own argument at this point." Sorry, but your common sense has no bearing on what's true in canon. I never said they aren't full Devil, though I'll give it to you that my statement was a bit confusing on that aspect, so I'm clarifying it now. That they don't possess the attributes of a full Devil? I myself can debunk this.

In the fight of Vali and Azi Dahaka it was stated that because Vali is a hybrid light is not as effective against him as it is against normal Devils. However, that was never stated when it came to Issei (who should, in your mind, be in the same conditions as Vali) or any Reincarnated Devil. And no, that definition doesn't apply in this context.

In DxD, Vali is a Devil/Human Hybrid. Issei and Yuuto are Reincarnated Devils, not Devil/Human Hybrids. There's distinctions between the very origin of the two and you have yet to prove that the outcomes are the same.