Talk:Alexander R. Lovecraft/@comment-70.127.191.90-20170724005155/@comment-26709288-20170724120113

There's also something known as a non-direct descendant. For all we know Leonardo or this Lovecraft could be a ancestor through a cousin or through marriage.

That's why the term "ancestor" or "descendant" by itself is generally vauge. This also applies to the Old Satan faction and the other members of the Hero Faction as well.