Talk:Lancelot Du Lac/@comment-29778526-20161219105748/@comment-29778526-20161223230152

But he still is a very powerful Fallen, the only problem was that he never took Rias and her peerage serious they weren't even a threat to him.

Kokabiel stopped Rias boosted attack, Yuuto balance breaker, Xenovia durandal, Akeno lightning attacks like it was child's play and he still was playing around because he was bored and his arrogance was basically unmatched at that point.

For his fight with Issei in in Cardinal armor is still very unstable and not at full power, Cao Cao a Human was able to match Issei in that state as well but we can't judge based on race.

I mean the most tough of them is that old man Vasco he was able to fight all Gremory group including Issei fairly easy with a copy of Durandal and was also him who defeated Kokabiel in the war.

Issei himself said that Vasco punches are like Sairaorg who as a young devil already had advantage in physical aspects compared to Vasco who is a old man thus was weaker ( like Odin getting weaker with old age ) but unlike Odin who is a God, Vasco is a Human of almost 90 years, who get many disadvantages for his advanced age, yet he was still able to take on the Gremory group both Issei and Saji with their armors and even Arthur with his Op Holy sword. Even though he loss because his old age he is far more impressive than Sairaorg and Issei considering their advantages, if he accepted the Seraph offer even Dulio would be in trouble with him.

Like you that my opinion.